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Carlos,

I ended up with an EGW rail. It probably will not set forward enough for prone mounting. Shells eject cleanly. It's also available in a 20 moa.

Good luck,

Gerry

To Tim S: Most Bench Rest 50 and F-Class Rimfire shooters uses this KK500, that is why scope is needed. Most users just remove the upper alluminium receiver (which dovetail is about 11.55mm widht and 2mm height) and sets scope rings with dovetail attachement to the lower receiver (which dovetail is about 11.75mm and 2.60 mm height).

Like Gerry (thank you for your support) i have a competition scope (March 10-60*56) with picatinny Warne Mountain Tech rings than i swap between rifles. It is cheaper (and funny) to zero before competiton than have a expensive scope for every rifle.

About the standard clamp adapters (like the one tonyv138138 did buy at Amazon) it is designed to fit .0433 dovetails (11mm), so the picatinny axis is centered with the dovetail. BUT, i guess than if the dovetail is wider (like the KK500 on 11.55 or 11.75mm) the picatinny will have an OFFSET, because one side of the clamp is fixed, so the picatinny rail will not be centered with the dovetail one.

As i can see some competition products like Cicognani solves this with a special clamp (see photo below) with a central cut than will mantain centered both pieces. UTG Leapers has a riser with this system too.

Thank you all for your help.

CarlosGT wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 6:18 am To Tim S: Most Bench Rest 50 and F-Class Rimfire shooters uses this KK500, that is why scope is needed.

Carlos,

I'm a Prone shooter, but I don't live under a rock. Globally, how many KK500 shooters use a 'scope vs aperture sights? F-Class rimfire and RFBR are still fairly new disciplines, at least compared to traditional smallbore events that Walther has built for. Walther may one day make a picatinney rail for the KK500, but it may take them a while - 11mm dovetails have worked for 70+ years remember. There's no factory long 'scope rail for prone shooters either.

Carlos, I did get your p.m. Actually the Amazon rail might work better as it must be slightly relieved underneath to sit atop a curved action rail. I had to file a small groove in the bottom of the EGW to allow the bolt stop some movement.

I also can highly recommend ADM Quick detach mount.
I was amazed at how little zeroing was necessary... sometimes none at all; and I always carry my scopes in a separate case to matches.

Gerry

Tim, how many US benchrest/Fclass shooters would be shooting a KK 500 if they knew what it is capable of out of the box?
I Shoot against some of the best RFBR competitors and custom equipment in this country (US). I'm the only one there with a factory rifle. Indoor, I've finished 14th of 20, 9th of 19, 19th of 86, and 6th of 16, in that order. I do everything wrong....factory rifle, 2 piece rest. Q,D scope mount. They're starting to ask me questions.

Gerry

Not a lot Garry when they can build a rifle with a custom top of the line barrel and still come out cheaper than a kk500

My barreled action and stock were $2700. I had it in two weeks. A good custom action, barrel, trigger, stock; assembled by a good smith...$3500 or more?Maybe a year wait? Maybe a shooter, maybe not?

Gerry

Some usefull data

Try an Eagle Vision rail adapter.

https://eaglevisioncam.com/product-cate ... y-adaptor/

Art

XTCShooter wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2024 7:59 pm Try an Eagle Vision rail adapter.

https://eaglevisioncam.com/product-cate ... y-adaptor/

Art

Thank you for the tip. I already have one eaglevisioncam rail adpater and it do not works on the KK500 as the adapter expects to fit on a 11 mm dovetail to create an upper picatinny 21.2 mm rail, but if the dovetail is wider (as the KK500) the picatinny generated is oversized and regular picatinny mounts (as Warne shown) do not fits properly.

analretentive wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 11:19 pm My barreled action and stock were $2700. I had it in two weeks. A good custom action, barrel, trigger, stock; assembled by a good smith...$3500 or more?Maybe a year wait? Maybe a shooter, maybe not?

Gerry

What you paid for your rifle doesn’tmatter, only what you can get it for now. A new blacktec is $3500 with a stock that isn't good for benchrest. A barreled action is $2500 plus another $1000 for a stock, so again you are at the same cost as a custom built with a custom hand lapped and installed barrel. The rifle is a beauty but it is not made for benchrest.

And what kind of guarantee do you have your new kk500 is a shooter? Less likely than a full custom build

Correct on the barreled action at today's price. Walther benchrest stock (like mine but $100.00 higher now) Robert Oberle...$409.00...today.
I had two previous Customs. 10x 3l, and Di Orio turbo, both with shilen ratchets smithed by the best. Both were close to $4000.00 by the time I was through, and both took over a year to complete. My KK500 outshoots both of them; also came with an 11mm 10 shot test target (50 meters)...sometimes meaningless, but I never got one at all from the custom smiths.

Gerry