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Re: My Feinwerkbau P44+R10 Match+R10Match Plus

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 5:33 pm
by 10metershooterazores
Gwhite wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:54 pm Stop worrying about the scores, and concentrate on identifying and fixing errors in your technique. The scores will come.

The shots out in the white have NOTHING to do with your pistol or pellets.
I know have nothing to do with my postol and pellets is my errors!!!
In the club rigth now i made 502 in a train match in 30 minutes! 5 shots per target 12 targets
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Re: My Feinwerkbau P44+R10 Match+R10Match Plus

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 5:37 pm
by 10metershooterazores
Gwhite wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:54 pm Stop worrying about the scores, and concentrate on identifying and fixing errors in your technique. The scores will come.

The shots out in the white have NOTHING to do with your pistol or pellets.
I know is my error but in 30 minutes 5 shots per target, 12 takgets and the machune readind i made 502 points!
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Re: My Feinwerkbau P44+R10 Match+R10Match Plus

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 8:46 pm
by Gwhite
As a quick guess, you are losing focus on your front sight. There is a natural tendency for the front of the pistol to drift up when you do that. That would explain all the high shots.

You may want to investigate shooting glasses. They don't have to be fancy. There are tons of postings on the subject.

Re: My Feinwerkbau P44+R10 Match+R10Match Plus

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 12:00 am
by 10metershooterazores
Gwhite wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:54 pm Stop worrying about the scores, and concentrate on identifying and fixing errors in your technique. The scores will come.

The shots out in the white have NOTHING to do with your pistol or pellets.
I know the whites is my problem, not the pistol or the pellets…but im the Club last nigth i made 502 points with a few whites…is getting better my friend!
Cheers

Re: My Feinwerkbau P44+R10 Match+R10Match Plus

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 1:55 am
by 10metershooterazores
Gwhite wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 3:54 pm Stop worrying about the scores, and concentrate on identifying and fixing errors in your technique. The scores will come.

The shots out in the white have NOTHING to do with your pistol or pellets.
I know the problem is me, not the pistol or pellets!
In a practice insimulate a match and made 502 points on the Club with 5 out!

Re: My Feinwerkbau P44+R10 Match+R10Match Plus

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 6:56 am
by Rover
Let's make sure you have a good zero.

Put up two targets, one on top of the other.

Fire 30 shots, only changing the top target every 5.

Change your zero based on the 30 shot hole, ignoring the flyers.

Do it again and again and again.

Don't forget the vinho tinto.

Re: My Feinwerkbau P44+R10 Match+R10Match Plus

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:09 am
by 10metershooterazores
Today mu scores are 508,506,500 and 500 points!

Re: My Feinwerkbau P44+R10 Match+R10Match Plus

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:14 am
by 10metershooterazores
Gwhite wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 8:46 pm As a quick guess, you are losing focus on your front sight. There is a natural tendency for the front of the pistol to drift up when you do that. That would explain all the high shots.

You may want to investigate shooting glasses. They don't have to be fancy. There are tons of postings on the subject.
It was on the club and i had never tried the sigths like this on the club. I just make a test target then in 30 minutos shot 60 shots 5 per target 12 targets and i still was lookikg for the rigth position os the sigth on the target !
But thank you

Re: My Feinwerkbau P44+R10 Match+R10Match Plus

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:38 am
by Gwhite
Here's a good thread on proper sight picture:

https://www.targettalk.org/viewtopic.php?p=328047

Re: My Feinwerkbau P44+R10 Match+R10Match Plus

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:08 pm
by bnice
I think what rover is saying is adjust to the center of your group, not to a few shots.
That will get you the most points and give you a truer zero. Remember if you throw a bad shot and you know why, don’t count it, but try to correct the cause. Good shooter learn to analyze the shoots.
This is a tough crowd.

Re: My Feinwerkbau P44+R10 Match+R10Match Plus

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:30 am
by 10metershooterazores
bnice wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:08 pm I think what rover is saying is adjust to the center of your group, not to a few shots.
That will get you the most points and give you a truer zero. Remember if you throw a bad shot and you know why, don’t count it, but try to correct the cause. Good shooter learn to analyze the shoots.
This is a tough crowd.
Thank you for your time and patience.
Cheers

Re: My Feinwerkbau P44+R10 Match+R10Match Plus

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:32 am
by 10metershooterazores
Rover wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 6:56 am Let's make sure you have a good zero.

Put up two targets, one on top of the other.

Fire 30 shots, only changing the top target every 5.

Change your zero based on the 30 shot hole, ignoring the flyers.

Do it again and again and again.

Don't forget the vinho tinto.
Thanks! I appreciate

Re: My Feinwerkbau P44+R10 Match+R10Match Plus

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:32 am
by 10metershooterazores
Gwhite wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:38 am Here's a good thread on proper sight picture:

https://www.targettalk.org/viewtopic.php?p=328047
Thanks

Re: My Feinwerkbau P44+R10 Match+R10Match Plus

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 6:18 am
by 10metershooterazores
10metershooterazores wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:32 am
Rover wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 6:56 am Let's make sure you have a good zero.

Put up two targets, one on top of the other.

Fire 30 shots, only changing the top target every 5.

Change your zero based on the 30 shot hole, ignoring the flyers.

Do it again and again and again.

Don't forget the vinho tinto.
Thanks! I appreciate
My zero target after 60 shots! Not to good!!!
Many outs i know why…

Re: My Feinwerkbau P44+R10 Match+R10Match Plus

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 6:32 am
by Rover
Keep doing the two target trick your whole shooting career.

Things change as you mature.

All those shots to the right are YOU jerking the trigger.

Bailiff, whack his peepee!

Re: My Feinwerkbau P44+R10 Match+R10Match Plus

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:19 am
by Gwhite
Actually, if he's right handed, he's probably applying pressure with his thumb. All your life, you've practiced squeezing things between your thumb & forefinger. If you let your thumb get in the act when you squeeze the trigger, your targets will look just like that.

You do NOT need thumb pressure on the side of the grip to hold the pistol. Shooting a good group is all about consistency. The most consistent pressure you can apply with your thumb is ZERO. Get it off the grip, and those shots should evaporate.

If he's a lefty, it would be finger tip pressure.

Re: My Feinwerkbau P44+R10 Match+R10Match Plus

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 1:00 pm
by KDZ
Rover wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2024 6:32 am Bailiff, whack his peepee!
Rover you're dating yourself! ("Laugh-in", ca early 70's)

Re: My Feinwerkbau P44+R10 Match+R10Match Plus

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 3:44 pm
by 10metershooterazores
Gwhite wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:19 am Actually, if he's right handed, he's probably applying pressure with his thumb. All your life, you've practiced squeezing things between your thumb & forefinger. If you let your thumb get in the act when you squeeze the trigger, your targets will look just like that.

You do NOT need thumb pressure on the side of the grip to hold the pistol. Shooting a good group is all about consistency. The most consistent pressure you can apply with your thumb is ZERO. Get it off the grip, and those shots should evaporate.

If he's a lefty, it would be finger tip pressure.
Thank you! Im rigth handed! Most os tge outs i was not concentrate but i will take your advice! But wach this:
Results 500+

Results:

31/01/2024:

At home

503 Media 83.8

01/02/2024

At home

500Media 8.3

Terceira Island Shooting Sports Club

5 shots training test match in Club

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Total=502 Media:8,37

03/02/2024

At home

508 Media:8,46

506 Media: 8.42

500Media: 8.3

500 Media:8,3

501Media:8,35.

04/02/2024

At home

501 points Media:8.35

505 points Media: 8.42

503 points Media:8.38

05/02/2024

At home

506 points Media: 8.43

507 pointsMedia: 8.45

516 points Media: 8.6

515 pointsMedia: 8.58

513 points Media: 8.55

512 Media:8,53

511 Media:8,52

509 Media: 8.48

TOTAL 500: 19

MAX: 516-MIN:500

Re: My Feinwerkbau P44+R10 Match+R10Match Plus

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:25 pm
by Gwhite
You are still obsessed with scores. Unless you spend more time working on improving your shot process and less time adding up meaningless numbers, your progress will be slow & painful.

I can shoot a 540 by firing nothing but sixty nines. I can also do it by shooting 54 tens and 6 complete misses. I can do it by shooting 30 eights and 30 tens. None of which is important. What IS important is why each shot arrived where it did. You need to work on eliminating the poor shots and increasing the number of good ones. You should be concentrating on improving your technique & consistency, NOT your scores. Good scores will be easy IF you fix your technique.

Re: My Feinwerkbau P44+R10 Match+R10Match Plus

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2024 9:12 pm
by 10metershooterazores
Gwhite wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:25 pm You are still obsessed with scores. Unless you spend more time working on improving your shot process and less time adding up meaningless numbers, your progress will be slow & painful.

I can shoot a 540 by firing nothing but sixty nines. I can also do it by shooting 54 tens and 6 complete misses. I can do it by shooting 30 eights and 30 tens. None of which is important. What IS important is why each shot arrived where it did. You need to work on eliminating the poor shots and increasing the number of good ones. You should be concentrating on improving your technique & consistency, NOT your scores. Good scores will be easy IF you fix your technique.
And how do I do that?
Can tou teach me, please?