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Air Pistol Test Group Sizes

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 6:05 pm
by jjpi222
What kind of test group sizes does one expect to get out of a quality air pistol at 10 meters? Are the groups as tight as that of an air rifle?

Re: Air Pistol Test Group Sizes

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 6:43 pm
by RJP
Assuming you have a quality match grade air pistol, you should see a single hole only slightly larger than the diameter of the pellet for a five shot group and definitely no larger than one and one-half times the diameter of the pellet. Most all match grade air pistols come with a test target with a pellet size marked on the target. There is no need to do extensive testing to see which pellet your gun "likes". Bulk tins of 500 pellets from any of the MATCH GRADE pellet makers (RWS, H&N, Vogel, Daisy, Crossman) do just fine.

Re: Air Pistol Test Group Sizes

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:43 pm
by Rover
The groups are so good you need not even ask.

Myself and the guys I shoot with are all using RWS Basic.

Re: Air Pistol Test Group Sizes

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:40 am
by rmca
Take a look at this post, it will answer all your doubts (at least about pellet groups!!!)

http://www.targettalk.org/viewtopic.php ... ting+again

Hope this helps

Re: Air Pistol Test Group Sizes

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:39 pm
by v76

Re: Air Pistol Test Group Sizes

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:11 pm
by Rover
Man, what a great collection. We should make it a sticky and required reading for anyone who asks a pellet question (Yeah, the whole damn thing!)

Re: Air Pistol Test Group Sizes

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:09 am
by gwsb
Life is too short to shoot bad ammo or drink bad wine.

Too lots one for practice and one for match.

Re: Air Pistol Test Group Sizes

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 3:02 pm
by john bickar
gwsb wrote:Life is too short to shoot bad ammo or drink bad wine.

Too lots one for practice and one for match.
How do you feel about older whiskey, younger women, faster horses, and more money?

Re: Air Pistol Test Group Sizes

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 8:32 pm
by Rover
John, you and I are on the same page. I hope you can handle that stuff better than me.

Re: Air Pistol Test Group Sizes

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 8:56 pm
by john bickar
Rover wrote:John, you and I are on the same page. I hope you can handle that stuff better than me.

You, me, and Tom T.

Re: Air Pistol Test Group Sizes

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 5:07 pm
by Marc Orvin
He was an old philosopher, of course.

Like many here.

Re: Air Pistol Test Group Sizes

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 8:07 pm
by Rover
It has been said that the difference between philosophy and graffiti is the word "fock."

Re: Air Pistol Test Group Sizes

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:27 pm
by gwsb
John I will take them in order:

1. Old whisky - yes
2. Younger women - Well I married one younger than I am a few decades ago. Think I will stick with her.
3. Faster horses - Never played the ponies
4. More Money - Well DUH! I could buy more guns and ammo.

Re: Air Pistol Test Group Sizes

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 3:51 am
by gn303
jjpi222 wrote:What kind of test group sizes does one expect to get out of a quality air pistol at 10 meters? Are the groups as tight as that of an air rifle?
Quite a while ago I payed a visit to M.Vogel in Germany to have my pistol tested and select the 'best' pellet.
M.Vogel himself confirmed that only the top 20-30 world class shooters would benefit from 'selected' pellets.

So follow the advice from Rover and Bickar: choose a well known brand pellet and train, shoot matches. Those are efforts and money well spent and results will come.

And don't forget: enjoy your shooting!

Good luck

Guy

Re: Air Pistol Test Group Sizes

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 12:55 pm
by Rover
Ah, Guy, you're too mellow. You need to slap down these young guys so they will never be competitive with us oldies.

We can snicker while they sit back and sulk.

Re: Air Pistol Test Group Sizes

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:42 am
by gn303
Too mellow? Maybe, but let the starters find out for themselves.
Someone who intends to take up ISSF style shooting will need all the encouragement and support he can get.

Regards.
Guy

Re: Air Pistol Test Group Sizes

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:48 am
by gn303
john bickar wrote:
gwsb wrote:Life is too short to shoot bad ammo or drink bad wine.

Too lots one for practice and one for match.
How do you feel about older whiskey, younger women, faster horses, and more money?
This makes me think of my grand-dads warning:
"Beware of a horse back side and a woman's front side!"
I found out about the horse, so I figured he was right about the rest! ;-)