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 Post subject: Re: Steyr air rifle
PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 2:15 pm 
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Good luck to your daughter.
We were just out at the OTC this summer for the American Legion Nationals in the sporter division.
I don't know if you've been there before, but it wasn't quite what I expected!

And yeah, I suppose we humans are predisposed to always thinking there's a bigger, better deal out there some where even though we know that practically any 10m air rifle rolling off the assembly line at the Steyr/Walther/Anschutz/Pardini/FWB/Tesro factory is capable of winning at the Olympics when put in the right hands!
It's just that there's always some nagging thought going on that there's gotta be something wrong with the equipment.
Like my current one is why my older kid isn't performing well in the precision arena when he excels in the sporter division.
His top score with an ol' Crosman Challenger is a 566, yet wrapped up like a burrito with a new, super-duper, high-tech Walther in his hands, his top score is only 570!
Of course, he's only been shooting precision for three months, but it's gotta be the equipment, right?!?!

And, I'll probably play it safe, and my youngest kid will probably wind up with a mid-level LG-400, just like his brother...

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 Post subject: Re: Steyr air rifle
PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 5:21 pm 
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Why bring logic, reason, and good sense into an irrational, loaded, and emotional topic freighted with anxiety?


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 Post subject: Re: Steyr air riflei
PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:38 pm 
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gspell68 wrote:
Good luck to your daughter.
We were just out at the OTC this summer for the American Legion Nationals in the sporter division.
I don't know if you've been there before, but it wasn't quite what I expected!

And yeah, I suppose we humans are predisposed to always thinking there's a bigger, better deal out there some where even though we know that practically any 10m air rifle rolling off the assembly line at the Steyr/Walther/Anschutz/Pardini/FWB/Tesro factory is capable of winning at the Olympics when put in the right hands!..


Just wake up each day grateful they are immersed in this discipline and not methamphetamine.


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 Post subject: Re: Steyr air riflei
PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:33 am 
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mbradley wrote:
Just wake up each day grateful they are immersed in this discipline and not methamphetamine.

Haha!
Good point!

In fact, from early on, that was a huge fear I had about my youngest son.
I could honestly see him going down any of many wrong paths that I never imagined with any of my other four kids.
Shooting and JROTC has really turned him around in the past year.
Always a C student at best: usually lower.
I was totally shocked when he brought home all A's on his last report card!

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 Post subject: Re: Steyr air rifle
PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:01 am 
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There is a lot of misinformation in this thread.
Steyr has nothing to do with Hammerli.
Hammerli and Walther are owned by Umarex.
Umarex makes toy pellet guns as cheap as $30.00.
Ever try to talk to a actual person at Umarex?
Not going to happen.
Here is the link. At the bottom of that page it says:
"Hammerli made by Walther Germany"
http://www.haemmerli.info/en/the-company.html
Same thing with Walther. Go to bottom of the page.
Here is the link:
https://www.umarexusa.com/collections/w ... air-rifles
If you have the money buy 10 of each brand of the major 10m rifles:
Disassemble them.
Measure every part in them in every dimension.
Buy the brand that has the smallest variation in machining.
Maybe then the argument will be settled.
My suggestion is a mute point because you can put any of the top brands in the hands of the top shooters for a period of weeks and they will work with the weights, balance, trigger and adjustments until they are shooting their normal scores.


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 Post subject: Re: Steyr air rifle
PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:10 am 
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atomicbrh wrote:
There is a lot of misinformation in this thread.
Steyr has nothing to do with Hammerli.
Hammerli and Walther are owned by Umarex.
Umarex makes toy pellet guns as cheap as $30.00.
Ever try to talk to a actual person at Umarex?
Not going to happen.
Here is the link. At the bottom of that page it says:
"Hammerli made by Walther Germany"
http://www.haemmerli.info/en/the-company.html
Same thing with Walther. Go to bottom of the page.
Here is the link:
https://www.umarexusa.com/collections/w ... air-rifles
If you have the money buy 10 of each brand of the major 10m rifles:
Disassemble them.
Measure every part in them in every dimension.
Buy the brand that has the smallest variation in machining.
Maybe then the argument will be settled.
My suggestion is a mute point because you can put any of the top brands in the hands of the top shooters for a period of weeks and they will work with the weights, balance, trigger and adjustments until they are shooting their normal scores.

Yep.
That's what I thought the relationships were, too.
Hämmerli being Swiss and Steyr being Austrian - both under the German companies of Walther and Anschutz, respectively.

I figured maybe the guys in the CMP workshop knew something that I didn't about the technology in the guns.

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