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Author:  Mtl_Biker [ Tue Mar 14, 2017 1:10 pm ]
Post subject:  MegaLink targets too bright!

My club uses MegaLink electronic targets and recently it changed to internal LED lighting (within each target) and some days (I guess it depends on my eyes, and how tired I am, blood sugar, etc.) I find the target SO BRIGHT that it's hard to look at it. I have shooting glasses with an adjustable iris but even at the smallest aperture the target seems too bright. And of course the depth of field changes also when the aperture is reduced.

With rifle shooting and a 6-color iris I have never had a problem because changing to a more suitable color eliminates the problem for me. It's only pistol shooting where I find this a problem.

Are there any solutions for pistol shooting with shooting glasses? Something variable?

Thanks

Author:  Rutty [ Tue Mar 14, 2017 4:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MegaLink targets too bright!

The light level on the Megalink may be adjusted by use of the button on the circuit board on the right hand side of the unit behind the front cover. The default setting is maximum and I seem to remember that you have to press the button twice before it will change the setting, one level per press. The unit will then retain the setting after being switched off.

Does this help?
Rutty

Author:  Mtl_Biker [ Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MegaLink targets too bright!

Rutty wrote:
The light level on the Megalink may be adjusted by use of the button on the circuit board on the right hand side of the unit behind the front cover. The default setting is maximum and I seem to remember that you have to press the button twice before it will change the setting, one level per press. The unit will then retain the setting after being switched off.

Does this help?
Rutty


Thank you. Interesting information. But unfortunately, we mere members of the shooting club don't have access to the targets themselves. All 8 are set the same way and it would appear that I'm the only member who finds them (sometimes) too bright.

Hmmm... since the brightness can be adjusted, how would one determine if the correct level of brightness was being used? I wonder if they've just left the targets at max brightness and that they're brighter than they should be.

Author:  jenrick [ Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:37 pm ]
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Depending on the brand of your shooting glasses, you might be able to get a tinted lense for it in your prescription. Alternatively there are some rotating filters available that work like the ones in a rifles iris do.

-Jenrick

Author:  Coolmeester [ Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MegaLink targets too bright!

IMO each shooter should be able to change the brightness of the target from the shooting lane. It's impossible for pistol shooter see the sights well to led lit target with full brightness. Making shooters to use special lenses just to dimm those overbright targets is stupid.

For the price what Sius and Megalink targets cost that feature shouldn't be too much to ask.

Author:  Mtl_Biker [ Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MegaLink targets too bright!

Coolmeester wrote:
IMO each shooter should be able to change the brightness of the target from the shooting lane. It's impossible for pistol shooter see the sights well to led lit target with full brightness. Making shooters to use special lenses just to dimm those overbright targets is stupid.

For the price what Sius and Megalink targets cost that feature shouldn't be too much to ask.


Are you saying that in a perfect world each shooter should be able to adjust the brightness, or that we're overlooking something and that it should be possible now?

Author:  Spencer [ Wed Mar 15, 2017 6:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MegaLink targets too bright!

Mtl_Biker wrote:
My club uses MegaLink electronic targets and recently it changed to internal LED lighting (within each target) and some days (I guess it depends on my eyes, and how tired I am, blood sugar, etc.) I find the target SO BRIGHT that it's hard to look at it. I have shooting glasses with an adjustable iris but even at the smallest aperture the target seems too bright. And of course the depth of field changes also when the aperture is reduced.

With rifle shooting and a 6-color iris I have never had a problem because changing to a more suitable color eliminates the problem for me. It's only pistol shooting where I find this a problem.

Are there any solutions for pistol shooting with shooting glasses? Something variable?

Thanks

Hmm
What is:
- the level of the general range lighting (particularly the downrange light level), and
- the colour and shade of the target background?
Both these will affect the apparent brightness of the target.

Author:  dronning [ Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MegaLink targets too bright!

Coolmeester wrote:
IMO each shooter should be able to change the brightness of the target from the shooting lane. It's impossible for pistol shooter see the sights well to led lit target with full brightness. Making shooters to use special lenses just to dimm those overbright targets is stupid.

For the price what Sius and Megalink targets cost that feature shouldn't be too much to ask.


I don't agree that each shooter should be able to adjust their own targets. The range should be adjusted as a whole, all the same level.

- Dave

Author:  David Levene [ Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: MegaLink targets too bright!

Spencer wrote:
Mtl_Biker wrote:
My club uses MegaLink electronic targets and recently it changed to internal LED lighting (within each target) and some days (I guess it depends on my eyes, and how tired I am, blood sugar, etc.) I find the target SO BRIGHT that it's hard to look at it. I have shooting glasses with an adjustable iris but even at the smallest aperture the target seems too bright. And of course the depth of field changes also when the aperture is reduced.

With rifle shooting and a 6-color iris I have never had a problem because changing to a more suitable color eliminates the problem for me. It's only pistol shooting where I find this a problem.

Are there any solutions for pistol shooting with shooting glasses? Something variable?

Thanks

Hmm
What is:
- the level of the general range lighting (particularly the downrange light level), and
- the colour and shade of the target background?
Both these will affect the apparent brightness of the target.

Another thing to remember is that an internally lit target with its light level measured in accordance with the ISSF rules will appear brighter than an externally lit target with the same light level (again measured in accordance with the rules).

The former will be the light level reflected from the target; the latter will be the light level reaching the target. (6.4.14.2)

It's not a great problem however as the light level in the rules is a minimum.

Author:  hundert [ Thu Mar 16, 2017 6:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: MegaLink targets too bright!

no, it's more of a function of ambient light. During summer one usually sets the TV brighter to compensate the extra light from sun. Otherwise the image's too dark. But in the evening, that extra brightness makes the TV too bright.

I shot my last competition on meyton and it was waaay to bright

Author:  DFWdude [ Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MegaLink targets too bright!

Sorry for an off-topic question... But does the SIUS system also have an adjustable brightness pot on it's circuit board?

Author:  Phil_S [ Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:44 am ]
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Sius brightness can be adjusted by the monitor.

Author:  Coolmeester [ Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: MegaLink targets too bright!

Phil_S wrote:
Sius brightness can be adjusted by the monitor.


How?

Author:  DFWdude [ Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: MegaLink targets too bright!

Phil_S wrote:
Sius brightness can be adjusted by the monitor.

I'm asking about brightness at the target (within the target frame) for shooting... not the brightness of the monitor at the shooting line.

Author:  Phil_S [ Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MegaLink targets too bright!

Hi DFWdude

Yes, thats what i meant.

Login as admin, then go to: home-system-hardware-target-light.

Software: System7
Target: LS10

Author:  DFWdude [ Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MegaLink targets too bright!

Bless you, Phil. I'll pass along the information to our rangemaster. Thanks.

Author:  Frenzy81 [ Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: MegaLink targets too bright!

Rutty wrote:
The light level on the Megalink may be adjusted by use of the button on the circuit board on the right hand side of the unit behind the front cover. The default setting is maximum and I seem to remember that you have to press the button twice before it will change the setting, one level per press. The unit will then retain the setting after being switched off.

Does this help?
Rutty


Even the least bright setting was too bright for out range in the beginning (not enough lights in the roof) so we solved it by adding a couple of strips of scotch tape over the LED light covers (plexi glass). This dims the light down a bit. You can use painters masking tape as well, but the targets appear more yellow then, even using the whitest tape available.

But as long as the OP doesn't even have access to walk forward the 10 meters to the targets there's nothing to be done, really. Except a 50% gray filter for the shooting glasses.

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