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 Post subject: Videos of AP60 match
PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 12:21 pm 
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The ISSF puts out great videos of the finals, but are there any videos of the actual ISSF 60-shot matches that occur before finals? I'm curious because I'd like to see what it looks and sounds like, if possible.


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 Post subject: Re: Videos of AP60 match
PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2016 8:25 pm 
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Greetings-

Perhaps drive over and watch one at CMP, south. Better yet, show up to shoot and they will help you with the learning process!

http://thecmp.org/air/cmp-competition-c ... l-matches/

Cheers!
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 Post subject: Re: Videos of AP60 match
PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 10:12 am 
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Correct, there aren't any. Tons of people with cameras, but you rarely find a picture later.
Here's Korean Youth or something qualification footage. I don't speak Korean... but it is recorded in good quality, found it 3 days ago and haven't watched yet myself.


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 Post subject: Re: Videos of AP60 match
PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 10:20 am 
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Very tempting. It's only a four hour drive to Anniston (and I will most definitely be shooting if I go to that). But I ain't there just yet. In the meantime, does anyone have videos or know where to find some?

And thank you hundert, I'll take a look.


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 Post subject: Re: Videos of AP60 match
PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 11:35 am 
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Chia wrote:
The ISSF puts out great videos of the finals, but are there any videos of the actual ISSF 60-shot matches that occur before finals? I'm curious because I'd like to see what it looks and sounds like, if possible.



Well based on experience in AP. An AP match can be dull to watch. Not much activity, not much sound. It can and does take well over an hour.

You could use a 5 minute video loop and not really tell the difference.

With the exception of the start..starting commands and such. You can refer to a rule book or PDF online for the commands for a preliminary. Record the commands yourself, playback for practice.

I agree with the previous poster..Go and visit one, much better in person than a video. Chat with other spectators, other shooters (quietly of course). Take notes, photos..if allowed (flash).


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 Post subject: Re: Videos of AP60 match
PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 11:04 pm 
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Munich 2011 ISSF World Cup, Qualification


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 Post subject: Re: Videos of AP60 match
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 6:55 am 
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Xman said it: "Well, based on experience in AP. An AP match can be dull to watch. Not much activity, not much sound. It can and does take well over an hour."

No help watching on tape, but at a real match you can liven things up by bringing your vuvuzela and police whistle and jumping up and down.

If that's good enough for World Cup, it's good enough for you!


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 Post subject: Re: Videos of AP60 match
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:52 pm 
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Thanks Hundred! I'll pass on the vuvuzelas, Rover


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 Post subject: Re: Videos of AP60 match
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:09 pm 
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first you go through weapon check, trigger weight, box fit, then you put the gun back into the case. Then at some point they will tell you you're allowed to unpack your weapons at your lane, but you can't shoot yet (not even dry fire). Then they will tell you have 15 minutes preparation time, that's where you can shoot as much as you want. After 15 minutes are over, they tell you, now you have an hour and something for your 60 shots match, start, and then you can shoot for one hour as you please (you can sit down). If you need to go to bathroom, or have malfunction, you raise one of your hands (like in that Korean video, it happens a couple a times. Also for some reason, everyone is shooting a Morini on that Korean video, never seen so many morinis in one place).

does anyone know what "ne" means in Korean? They commentators say it all the time, one after another, ne, she: ne, he: ne, she:neeee. Seems to be a sound of agreement, like a "yes", but sounds like a "no" lol


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 Post subject: Re: Videos of AP60 match
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:19 pm 
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hundert wrote:
Then at some point they will tell you you're allowed to unpack your weapons at your lane, but you can't shoot yet (not even dry fire).

That point will be at least 15 minutes before the start of the preparation & sighting time.
As soon as you are called to the line (10m & 50m) you are allowed to dry fire, rule 6.11.1.1.f (even before the prep & sighting) unless you are specifically told not to.


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 Post subject: Re: Videos of AP60 match
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:22 pm 
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yes, we are always told not to dry fire


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 Post subject: Re: Videos of AP60 match
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:30 pm 
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hundert wrote:
yes, we are always told not to dry fire

I wonder why.
My standard announcement is:-
"Athletes to the line. As a reminder, you may carry out aiming exercises and dry fire but you may NOT expel gas".
I can't remember seeing an air pistol match where dry firing was not allowed, and can see no reason why it shouldn't be.


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 Post subject: Re: Videos of AP60 match
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 5:19 pm 
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I don't know why, they tell us "you are not yet allowed to go into stance" translated into English, so you're not even allowed to lift the pistol and aim, you can only unpack things, after things are unpacked, the 15 minutes preparation time starts.

Also, after you done shooting, you are NOT allowed to pack your things, you leave your lane and go chill until everyone stops shooting and they tell you "the athletes now can pack their things" (this also happens in that Korean video) They sometimes want to check your trigger weight again, for example, ... those sneaky bastards.


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