TargetTalk

A forum to talk about Olympic style shooting, rifle or pistol, 10 meters to 50 meters, and whatever is in between. Hosted by Pilkguns.com
It is currently Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:19 am

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 14 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: LP50 questions
PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:09 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:47 am
Posts: 21
Location: Arizona
I have heard it said the LP50 is not the perfect pick for 10 meter shooting and there are better options. However I’m 56 bad eyes and won’t take the time required to be the best ten meter shooter I could be. I bought a FAS 6004 to supplement practice to my powder burning pistols. I have found this addictive, fun and the air pistols shoot way better than MY powder burners. My FAS is NOT holding me back. Although I see a PCP could be satisfying to me. All I have to compare is my FAS I like the Grip / Trigger / Size and Weight. So if anyone can help me compare the LP50 to what I use and know. I have read specs but they don’t compare to as felt by human hands. Will the LP50 Weight - Overall Length - and Grip Angle be comparable? Trigger I hear the LP50 trigger s not as good as a LP10 ok but will it be as good or better as what I shoot. I know good is subjective but I don’t know how to ask another way. Also the velocity. Is the lower velocity more accurate or tuned for ten meter target? Is there any disadvantage to the HP LP50. I am asking these questions to try to avoid buying several pistols before getting the pistol that fits my desire.

Thanks in advance


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: LP50 questions
PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:34 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:40 pm
Posts: 11
It worths to try other equipment. Only way to make sure how do you feel about shooting a particular pistol.

You will find a handful of nice offers from the leading brands: Steyr, Morini, FWB, Pardini, Matchguns... Steyr alone have half a dozen options.

There is not a "best" pistol, there is what suits you best. I love my FWB C20, even being quite on the heavy side compared to more recent offers.

I suggest you to look for a shooting club and have a couple of bitters with the chaps. Certainly they will give you a chance to try their equipment.

*Saran


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: LP50 questions
PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:42 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sat Nov 15, 2008 4:20 pm
Posts: 5094
Location: Scottsdale AZ
Why an LP50 when you KNOW it's not the "perfect pick?" Find something else (preferably cheaper and less in demand).


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: LP50 questions
PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:54 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:50 pm
Posts: 233
Location: Wisconsin
If you go with the LP50 make sure you buy a single shot magazine with it. That adds about $75. LP50 is a fine pistol and one of only a few that lets you shoot 5 shots in a row. If that is important to you I would go with the LP50. If that is not important, I would buy a single shot. I personally love my Steyr Evo 10e, but as mentioned above there are many great shooting single shot air pistols.

Chip


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: LP50 questions
PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:04 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 09, 2017 1:27 am
Posts: 17
Spark,
I just picked up an LP50 compact High Power. Absolutely love it. Been doing ALOT of shooting in my back yard with my family. It really hammers the steel silhouette targets & sends them flying with a satisfying "ping"!

From what I understand the trigger is the same as on the LP10. I have mine set to about 2 pounds but it can be set to whatever you want.

Can't compare it to the FAS, I've never held one. I will say this is an Olympic level pistol that is also semi-auto. There's really nothing else like it out there that I'm aware of. Fit/finish is excellent, and it should be for almost 2k, but you are getting the best. I say treat yourself :)

Here's a pic with the universal grips, they are ambidextrous & look the same on both sides. The pistol originally came with target grips but I prefer these.

Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: LP50 questions
PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:13 am 
Offline

Joined: Mon Mar 01, 2004 12:49 pm
Posts: 5245
Location: Ruislip, UK
BigStick wrote:
From what I understand the trigger is the same as on the LP10.

Absolutely not I'm afraid. The LP10 is in a different league, up there with other first class triggers.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: LP50 questions
PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:02 am 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jul 12, 2015 1:55 pm
Posts: 22
Location: Norway
The LP50 trigger is not in the same league as the LP10. The travel needed to fire the gun (2nd stage) is far greater than the LP10 or EVO10, and is also has less adjustment options.

The LP50e trigger could be compared to the LP10/LP10e triggers, but unfortunately they stopped making that. I replaced my LP50 with an LP50e once I found one for sale a couple of years ago, and I found I can make the transition between the 10 and the 50 much easier now.


But - the LP50 trigger is not bad, and compared to other 5 shot AP's it's pretty good. If you only own one AP and that's the LP50 you probably won't be disappointed :)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: LP50 questions
PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 6:41 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri Mar 10, 2017 7:34 am
Posts: 100
Location: Copperhill Tennessee 37317
@Old Sparky: BUY THE LP50! I picked up an LP50 from Pilkington in June - love it! Use the LP50 for: (1) LOADS of fun!, (2) Trainer for rapid-fire, (3) Eventually get an ambi-grip to get trigger-time LEFT handed.

Have set-up a "To-Scale" rapid-fire course (in my driveway), scaling back 25-meter RF dimensions to 10-meter distance.
Indoors, I shoot at 5-meters, so I use AR5/5 Air Rifle target - visually to scale at 5-meters the rifle-black-dot is the same as pistol-black-dot at 10-meters. Five shot string.

Compare/Contrast:
I have the LP50 and the Morini 162EI.

1. LP50 trigger is good. But it's mechanical, whereas the Electronic trigger on the Morini is Outstanding.
2. Recommend the LP50 Compact: simulates a 1911 sight radius. Don't really need full length, that's what the Morini is for.
3. Buck at Pilk said the "High-Pressure" LP-50 - (quoting): "Simply uses up more air."
(3a: However, the HP would extend range.)
(3b: But, degrades fine accuracy.)
4. BOTH are FUN!!!

(Side note, PILK GUNS has canned their old "shoot a 555 on one of their Compacts & get a FREE full-length.)

Conclusion, hey Old Sparky, bust out the wallet and buy the LP50!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: LP50 questions
PostPosted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:52 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:35 am
Posts: 11
BigStick wrote:
Spark,
I just picked up an LP50 compact High Power. Absolutely love it. Been doing ALOT of shooting in my back yard with my family. It really hammers the steel silhouette targets & sends them flying with a satisfying "ping"!

From what I understand the trigger is the same as on the LP10. I have mine set to about 2 pounds but it can be set to whatever you want.

Can't compare it to the FAS, I've never held one. I will say this is an Olympic level pistol that is also semi-auto. There's really nothing else like it out there that I'm aware of. Fit/finish is excellent, and it should be for almost 2k, but you are getting the best. I say treat yourself :)

Here's a pic with the universal grips, they are ambidextrous & look the same on both sides. The pistol originally came with target grips but I prefer these.

Image


HI
I have just bought an LP50. The politicians here in the UK decided that the LP 50 was a semi automatic short barreled pistol and as such was not allowed under our current firearm laws. Then it was decided it is not 'self loading' but 'self indexing' and was therefore quite legal. So, I bought one for offhand competition for 6 yards, 10 metres and 25 yards. Don't ask why "yards and metres" (British). Also a club house conversation" has anybody ever made a 6 round mag". Ask Steyr and its like blasphemy.
Like the set up of your rig. Thought I may put laminated Rink grips on mine. Just shot 25 yards off hand with mine with open sights and shot 92 out of the box no adjustment. Happy days


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: LP50 questions
PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:21 am 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jul 12, 2015 1:55 pm
Posts: 22
Location: Norway
jack1 wrote:
... a 6 round mag". Ask Steyr and its like blasphemy.


Design your 6-shot magazine in a 3D tool, like Sketchup (free). Find a good friend with a cnc machine. I'm sure you can sell a few on eBay as well... The scandinavian countries have a field target competition in common, 6 shots is used for all of those. I'm sure a lot of people would like an LP50 with 6-shot magazine they could train with during winter (indoors).

I believe I've seen dry-fire magazines made available as 3D files on thingiverse or some other 3D print site. Grab that file and use it as a starting point.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: LP50 questions
PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:40 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:35 am
Posts: 11
Frenzy81 wrote:
jack1 wrote:
... a 6 round mag". Ask Steyr and its like blasphemy.


Design your 6-shot magazine in a 3D tool, like Sketchup (free). Find a good friend with a cnc machine. I'm sure you can sell a few on eBay as well... The scandinavian countries have a field target competition in common, 6 shots is used for all of those. I'm sure a lot of people would like an LP50 with 6-shot magazine they could train with during winter (indoors).

I believe I've seen dry-fire magazines made available as 3D files on thingiverse or some other 3D print site. Grab that file and use it as a starting point.


Thanks for that you may be on to something. A six round mag would open up all kinds of possibilities for the LP50. Another 'I wonder' is if a plastic printer could re produce them. Although never approved of course by Steyr

Thanks again


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: LP50 questions
PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:40 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:48 am
Posts: 465
Location: Aotearoa/NZ
I would like to suggest the Hotchkiss Portative Mk.1 approach.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb-cDO82AVM

_________________
Image Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: LP50 questions
PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:27 am 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jul 12, 2015 1:55 pm
Posts: 22
Location: Norway
I noticed something while shooting my LP50 yesterday, which is a potential problem if you were to have a magazine with >5 shots capacity:

The way the magazine well is designed means that none of the pellets in the mag will be fully exposed on the right side of the gun, when the mag is inserted all the way. They probably designed it this way to prevent pellets from coming loose and blocking/jamming the magazine while shooting.

So if you manage to make a 6 (or larger) shot mag this is a potential problem. I shot 4.49 pellets yesterday and the fit inside the magazine was loose, but it worked. With a 6 shot mag I would definitely make sure I'd use a 4.50 or larger pellet to avoid this problem.


Perhaps you could make an adapter to extend the length of the mag well, which would secure the pellets from coming out of the extended mag?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: LP50 questions
PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 5:50 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:35 am
Posts: 11
Frenzy81 wrote:
I noticed something while shooting my LP50 yesterday, which is a potential problem if you were to have a magazine with >5 shots capacity:

The way the magazine well is designed means that none of the pellets in the mag will be fully exposed on the right side of the gun, when the mag is inserted all the way. They probably designed it this way to prevent pellets from coming loose and blocking/jamming the magazine while shooting.

So if you manage to make a 6 (or larger) shot mag this is a potential problem. I shot 4.49 pellets yesterday and the fit inside the magazine was loose, but it worked. With a 6 shot mag I would definitely make sure I'd use a 4.50 or larger pellet to avoid this problem.


Perhaps you could make an adapter to extend the length of the mag well, which would secure the pellets from coming out of the extended mag?


Thanks for that. The EVO 10 I owned previously shot 4.49 pellets but the LP50 is designed to shoot 4.50 . I can't help thinking that long before now that if it were possible someone would have made a 6 round mag. So, maybe that is how it will stay, an idea.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 14 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: tanro73 and 5 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group