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 Post subject: Anschutz 1413 or 1407
PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:33 pm 
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does anyone know where I can purchase a used 1413 or 1407 in California? Just getting into rimfire and a new member. Thanks, nilebartram


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:41 pm 
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no reply,amazing! nilebartram


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:23 am 
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Your best bet is to watch GunBroker(search "Anschutz"), otherwise start haunting the local gun stores and ranges. 1413's were discontinued long ago, current Anschutz models are 54.30, 2013, and 1913, but you probably already know this.
Maybe find out where the smallbore matches are held and see if one of the older shooters may want to sell theirs. I know this post isn't what your looking for but, it's the best I can do to help you.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:24 pm 
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After the 1407 and the 1413 there was a period of "transition" with the "X" rifles, informally designated as the 1607 and 1613 which had the curved bolt (like the later 1807 and 1813) and the side-safety 5071 trigger which was basically like the later 5018 but had tapered pins instead of straight pins.

Then came the 1807 and 1813 with the 5018 trigger.

Followed by the 1907 and 1913, with the 5018 trigger.

Suggest if you are starting out, do not consider anything older than the 1807 and 1813, or the 1907 and 1913. These have the 5018 trigger.

1807 and 1907 will fit in same stocks (also fits in stocks for 1813 and 1913, but will have space in the barrel channel due to smaller dia. barrel of the 1807 and 1907).

1813 and 1913 will fit in same stocks.

Have owned/shot many over the years, and I really liked the X rifles (still have a 1613)---- but, that bolt is obsolete, and you might not find parts for the 5071 trigger if you need to rebuild it.

The later bolt design of the 1807/1907 and 1813/1913, and especially the later 5018 trigger is the reason why these are the best choice.

IMO, it's best to have a rifle that you can get parts for.

It appears that Duffy's has a used 1813 Supermatch listed now on GB.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 3:39 am 
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udiablo wrote:
After the 1407 and the 1413 there was a period of "transition" with the "X" rifles, informally designated as the 1607 and 1613 which had the curved bolt (like the later 1807 and 1813) and the side-safety 5071 trigger which was basically like the later 5018 but had tapered pins instead of straight pins.


A good description, but not all 1600s have a curved bolt. Based on proof dates, I believe 1600s originally had straight all-steel handles, and the curved type w plastic ball appeared in 1978. Also early 5018 triggers had the same tapered cross pins secured with red epoxy as 5071/5 triggers. Anschutz changed to straight pins with circlips in the mid-'80s, between' 83 and '87, when the 1900s were launched. The real differences between a 5071 and 5018, are the position of the catch (approx 2-3mm further ahead for the 5071),and that the 5018 has a cam for coarse weight adjustment.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:23 am 
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I think Tim is right about the early, straight, steel bolt handle for the 1600s. I had a 1600 with the (later) curved handle plus plastic knob and I have been puzzled recently to see one or two adverts for 1600s with a straight steel handle. I can now see that these are entirely original and not some kind of modification.

It is a great pity, not to say deplorable, that Anschutz apparently made little attempt to stock pile spares for the 1600 bolt, mostly of course springs and firing pins. It would not have cost the company very much, I would guess. Some excellent rifles are likely to have a premature demise.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 8:09 pm 
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Tim S wrote:
udiablo wrote:
After the 1407 and the 1413 there was a period of "transition" with the "X" rifles, informally designated as the 1607 and 1613 which had the curved bolt (like the later 1807 and 1813) and the side-safety 5071 trigger which was basically like the later 5018 but had tapered pins instead of straight pins.


A good description, but not all 1600s have a curved bolt. Based on proof dates, I believe 1600s originally had straight all-steel handles, and the curved type w plastic ball appeared in 1978. Also early 5018 triggers had the same tapered cross pins secured with red epoxy as 5071/5 triggers. Anschutz changed to straight pins with circlips in the mid-'80s, between' 83 and '87, when the 1900s were launched. The real differences between a 5071 and 5018, are the position of the catch (approx 2-3mm further ahead for the 5071),and that the 5018 has a cam for coarse weight adjustment.


Good to know.

Each of the "transition rifles" I've owned had curved bolt handles.

Did the straight handle 1600 bolts also exhibit the other bolt changes (bottom cut, dual extractors, etc)?

Neal Stepp (ISS) reminded me a few times about the pins in my 5071 trigger (Hey, what are you going to do when that trigger needs work? Better get rid of that rifle.)

If I had listened to him, the 1613 would have been sold before the end of the last century.

I did not know that the early 5018's also had tapered pins.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:53 am 
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udiablo wrote:
Did the straight handle 1600 bolts also exhibit the other bolt changes (bottom cut, dual extractors, etc)?


Yes the early 1600 models had the cut in the bolt exposing the firing pin. The left hand bolt claw, properly a "cartridge holder" was introduced well before the 1600s in 1965/6.


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