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Cundiff5535
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Powder, accuracy, and help

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Hi Guys, not sure if this is the correct place for this... I have lots of loading questions the last week! I am looking for powder thoughts on the following:

45acp,38super, and 9mm

i want the most accurate, best shooting, cleanest power out there! I have typically used Winchester 231, Bullseye, Titegroup, Universal, Unique, and CFE Pistol. I have a bunch of 231, Unique, and CFE left, but recently shot some Winchester Super Target and was pretty amazed by it in my 45.

i have read VV is too notch stuff, but have little experience with it in pistol.

i know there are some a few newer powders out there, just looking for thoughts and help on powders for shooting 50 yard hardball/accuracy style shooting.

All thoughts and help appreciated!
Isabel1130
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Cundiff5535 wrote:Hi Guys, not sure if this is the correct place for this... I have lots of loading questions the last week! I am looking for powder thoughts on the following:

45acp,38super, and 9mm

i want the most accurate, best shooting, cleanest power out there! I have typically used Winchester 231, Bullseye, Titegroup, Universal, Unique, and CFE Pistol. I have a bunch of 231, Unique, and CFE left, but recently shot some Winchester Super Target and was pretty amazed by it in my 45.

i have read VV is too notch stuff, but have little experience with it in pistol.

i know there are some a few newer powders out there, just looking for thoughts and help on powders for shooting 50 yard hardball/accuracy style shooting.

All thoughts and help appreciated!
VV is probably the best overall. I recommend 310 for 45. And 340 for 9 mm. Don't know about 38 Super.. I use 340 and 350 in my 9mm.
I also like Titegroup and WST a lot for 45. Clays is also quite good. But those three powders have been difficult to find lately.

I have been using Bullseye. Quite dirty in my short line loads but excellent functioning and consistency.
Rover
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Isabell didn't mention that she's at PRGC for our (yesterday) 2700 and the Desert Midwinter.

This is a golden opportunity to get off your ass and pick the brains of some of the best around.
Isabel1130
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Rover wrote:Isabell didn't mention that she's at PRGC for our (yesterday) 2700 and the Desert Midwinter.

This is a golden opportunity to get off your ass and pick the brains of some of the best around.
Yes. I was alabi free yesterday, unlike some others on the line. :-).
JimPGov
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MY FAVORITE ARE AS FOLLOWS
.45 CLEANEST AND MOST ACCURATE VV310 2ND WST
9MM CLEANEST AND MOST ACCURATE VV330 2ND WSF
dronning
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JimPGov wrote:MY FAVORITE ARE AS FOLLOWS
.45 CLEANEST AND MOST ACCURATE VV310 2ND WST
9MM CLEANEST AND MOST ACCURATE VV330 2ND WSF
+1 on Jim's list. I haven't seen any VV330 for almost 3 years, I use WSF with great results in my 9MM & WST in my 45.

- Dave
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Isabel1130
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Re: Powder, accuracy, and help

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dronning wrote:
JimPGov wrote:MY FAVORITE ARE AS FOLLOWS
.45 CLEANEST AND MOST ACCURATE VV310 2ND WST
9MM CLEANEST AND MOST ACCURATE VV330 2ND WSF
+1 on Jim's list. I haven't seen any VV330 for almost 3 years, I use WSF with great results in my 9MM & WST in my 45.

- Dave
Me either. Which is why I use VVN340. Same accuracy, slightly less kick.
tenx9
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been using Bullseye for the .45 for more years than I care to tell. Accuracy and functionability is very high. Frankly, it doesn't get that dirty. Bullseye load is 4.1 with a hardcast 200g and 4.6 for 185g 50yd load.
For the .38 super I've been using 5.2g of W231 with a 115g Montana Gold JHP. approx. just under 1200fps. My pistol is comped and the accuracy is great.
In the prone position I've put 5 shots into a bullseye X ring. Good enough for NRA Action pistol as well as an occasional speed steel match.
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sorry. that .38 super load was shot at 50 yards
dronning
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Isabel1130 wrote:
dronning wrote: 9MM CLEANEST AND MOST ACCURATE VV330 2ND WSF

+1 on Jim's list. I haven't seen any VV330 for almost 3 years, I use WSF with great results in my 9MM & WST in my 45.

- Dave
Me either. Which is why I use VVN340. Same accuracy, slightly less kick.
Isabel, I have some VVN340, if you don't mind sharing what is your load?

- Dave
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Isabel1130
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dronning wrote:
Isabel1130 wrote:
dronning wrote: 9MM CLEANEST AND MOST ACCURATE VV330 2ND WSF

+1 on Jim's list. I haven't seen any VV330 for almost 3 years, I use WSF with great results in my 9MM & WST in my 45.

- Dave
Me either. Which is why I use VVN340. Same accuracy, slightly less kick.
Isabel, I have some VVN340, if you don't mind sharing what is your load?

- Dave
5.0 over any 115g jacketed round nose or hollow point bullet
Misny
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I've used Alliant e3 in .45 ACP target loads. It is very clean burning. American Select is pretty clean burning. I've used it in .45 ACP and 9mm.
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Re: Powder, accuracy, and help

Post by C. Perkins »

4.6gr BE under Nosler 185gr JHP long and short line(the recoil is controlled by the 6" barrel for the short line, you would be amazed what one inch can do...:)

4.8gr VV-N340 under 115gr Sierra FMJ.
Going to work on some 115gr XTP's next.

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